Sometimes I think it’s the US and Britain against the world…


5 Responses to “Sometimes I think it’s the US and Britain against the world…”

  1. 1 kernunos
    December 4, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Too fat to fight? You would have to be pretty fat to not be able to point and shoot a rifle. Also what does two pints a day have to do with not training local police? Two pints a day will not take that long to drink. What are they doing with the rest of their day? The picture I say did not have a bunch of fat soldiers in it. Is this a poor excuse for Germany trying to pull their troops out? Something smells with this article and I do not think it is their neighbors in Denmark.

  2. 2 kernunos
    December 4, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Too fat to fight also sounds like a great Monty Python skit.

  3. 3 Mike Rozos
    December 6, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    That article was another ten second commentary. I have enough experience in government to know resources cannot be measured so easily.

    How many of those litres were used to get locals to do what they wanted? How many British and American troops have a drink with the Germans? You cannot monitor those stats, and if any lib pressman wants to they should go to their local recruiter and get over there.

    What would you do if you were from a country that honors wealth, sophistication, education, physical beauty, and luxury, yet found yourself wearing a camo uniform with a rifle in Afghanistan with your country’s flag on your shoulder, making less than a bus driver in Wurzburg makes?

    You’d have a pint, too. Or eighty thousand.

    The article did not mention any ways to help the soldiers get fit. Could it be that writer, his publisher, and all of his colleagues have never been in the military, much less in a leadership role?

    One of the comments mentioned the Germans allowing their troops to step up and be more involved.

    Don’t worry. Germany is more willing and able to step up than people think. Wait and see.

  4. December 6, 2008 at 2:12 pm


    Good comment.

    From my understanding and from what I’ve seen though, most people just don’t realize how far ahead of the rest of the world the American army really is. I’m not just talking about tech and money either. We’re more motivated, more disciplined–everything.

    Chalk it up to the American way, but we learn faster. We’re willing to throw away that which doesn’t work and move on to something better. It may take a couple of years, such as it did in Iraq, but it seems to take other cultures decades and centuries to do the same thing.

    Beer isn’t the problem with the German army. Hell, the Brits were giving their men something like 2 liters of the stuff a day, back in the 1700s when they were running roughshod over everyone. And our own army, when we fought the Brits in the war of Independance was almost perpetually drunk. I’m still thinking of doing an essay on what we talked about: How countries that have alcohol and consume it regularly do better in almost every aspect than those that don’t.

    No, Germany’s problem is:
    1) They’ve relied on the US since 1945 for defence. That’s changing ’cause we’re not gonna do it much longer.

    2) There’s still a shame here for what happened in WWII. A neglect of the military is a natural evolution of that shame.

    I don’t worry too much about the Europeans, other than hoping we don’t follow them–they follow us, after all. Europe will probably be the major target for Islamic extremists for the next decade, and when sufficiently injured, Europe has historically shown itself capable of more city-razing destruction than any other culture on earth.

    I’ll have a Beck’s, please.

  5. December 6, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    Oh yeah–Germany has conscription too–mandatory one or two years(can’t remember), or they can do community service instead. Conscription makes for bigger armies, if less efficient. It’s not a good tool for armies like the US has, not determined to conquer, but if you want to take over land and hold it–ala Hitler and Napolean–it’s the only way to fly.

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