07
Mar
08

Update IV Marine/ Puppy video

Yes, I am obsessed with this. Yes, I do want to get to the bottom of it. It means a lot, for several reasons. We should all be bothered by how happy many people are after viewing this video. They are upset of course, that they see a puppy being thrown, but I can’t get over how gleeful they seem at the same time; gleeful that America’s military has somehow been “exposed.”

But, this is not our military. This is a video of one person, supposedly doing something awful. We ARE the most moral nation in the world. I believe that. I believe that our military is held to the highest of standards. In most cases, enemy combatants can’t wait to surrender to our fighting forces because they know that they’ll be treated better than in their own countries. If we want to apple pick the bad things that have happened, we could go on forever, and we will continue to miss all of the good. Many don’t want good; they want drama.

I’ve watched the video carefully many times now. Here are some observations:

1) The puppy’s legs are not zip-tied. When the Marine sticks his head in from the left-side of the screen, a wire going to a mic or camera moves in front of the puppies feet. I think some thought it was a zip-tie.

2) I see no evidence of the puppy moving or glancing. I just don’t. I’m trying to be as honest as I can, not letting emotions sway me. I don’t see movement other than momentum from the Marine’s arm.

3) When the Marine moves in from the left, the wire from his helmet seems to bend a bit, as if it contacts something hanging out of the thrower’s hand. This may be evidence that it isn’t merely CGI.

4) When the thrower’s (Motari’s?) arm reaches it’s farthest point back of the toss, a shadow is cast on the rock ledge behind him; it does appear to hold a similar shape to the puppy.

5) Still no comments by major news agencies on the appearance of the Islamic flag at the beginning of the video, nor the Christian Soldier reference or jade-colored crown. Some are even cutting the front of the video off so that people do not see the flag, but the crown stays in the video.

6) There’s just something a little off about the shape of the puppy. Its hind-legs look weird. Could it be from post-mortem bloating? Maybe it’s just a type of dog I haven’t seen before. Or maybe it’s fake…

7) Most damning is the yelps from the dog. The noise never diminishes with distance. And the yelp seems all too convenient, like: “See how TERRIBLE this is !” I don’t even know if a dog would yelp after being thrown, at least while it was still in the air. And did you see how far the puppy flew?

8: Why didn’t the Marines go and look over the cliff to see what became of the dog? That seems weird to me. If they were throwing a puppy for sadistic reasons, it seems that people that depraved would want to see the results of their misdeeds. That’s what usually happens with arsonists and such; they return to their crime scenes.

9) The fact that there are people out there making fake MySpace pages posing as Motari and “confessing” in blogs, shows me that certain persons have the heinous capability and desire to discredit our military at all costs. The fake postings should make everyone doubt the veracity of the video, at least until the Marine Corps has fully investigated.

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11 Responses to “Update IV Marine/ Puppy video”


  1. 1 Andy Prentis
    March 7, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    The puppy was alive and bound prior to the throwing. The idiot that threw it to its death admits this on his MySpace page on 3/5/08. This MySpace page is not fake (check the dates). Don’t you have anything better to do than spread propaganda?

  2. 3 magus71
    March 8, 2008 at 12:15 am

    What does the date on the MySpace page have to do with its veracity? Read my other postings–I was a friend on the page; I know what it looks like.

  3. March 8, 2008 at 1:08 am

    Myspace pages can easily be faked. If Andy has evidence that the page is genuine then he should share it with the world. The date means nothing beyond the fact that the page or comment was created at that time.

  4. 5 Brian
    March 9, 2008 at 10:22 am

    Andy,

    You are completely incompetent. It amazes me to no end how easily some people will believe anything they’re told. If you had taken more than two seconds to consider other possibilities, you would have realized what has since been told to you by magus71 and mlabossi.

    The fact that you argue a point that clearly has a faulty foundation tends to suggest that you have an agenda. What about propaganda?

    -Brian

  5. March 9, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    The MySpace page is a fake. No way would a soldier under investogation further jeopardize himself by doing that.

    >>>1) The puppy’s legs are not zip-tied. When the Marine sticks his head in from the left-side of the screen, a wire going to a mic or camera moves in front of the puppies feet. I think some thought it was a zip-tie.

    Will you PLEASE look around for a better copy? Its front legs clearly ARE zip-tied.

  6. March 9, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    I have come back because I have looked at the video again and again now very closely.

    I have to concede that its front legs probably are NOT zip-tied.

    But the dog *is* alive and those yelps are *not* added or faked.

  7. 8 jake
    March 10, 2008 at 1:36 am

    andy please get a grip. it is real. this is real. this is disgusting. you are the same kind of person who says a woman faked a rape

  8. 9 GI Joe
    March 17, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    I’ve made alot of these points when the video first came out. First time I viewed something was up with they yelps and distance. It’s hard to throw something very far with all your gear on. Second you can hear it land which is AT LEAST 30 meters (straight line) through rock/dirt/sand. Sound traveling around the corner of a cliff making that loud of a thud? People are so quick to point out bad stuff. I’m still waiting to hear what they find out. Be funny if they finally say it was some huge prank.
    Just like having a public official having an affair and people want his resignation right then and everyone in the US gets upset. Yet it was ok for Bill to do it? We as AMERICANS need to learn to think freely and be objectional, get education and don’t believe books or anything a teacher/professor tells you. No one has all the answers or tells the truth (Michael Moore does it for the money even).

  9. 10 Tara
    April 26, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    It’s now April 26th, 2008. If we’ve learned anything from this, (besides the fact that monsters turn up everywhere) it’s that we should not be surprised they can’t find Bin Laden when they can’t even find one of their own.

  10. September 10, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post… nice! I love your blog. 🙂 Cheers! Sandra. R.


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